An Explanation of our Main Goal (Part 2)

I should clarify what I said in the last post... We aren't getting rid of the desktop paradigm. I think a well polished desktop is important. However, the goal is not to make a perfect copy of a "real" desktop. It's actually to take the desktop paradigm, and adapt it for the web. I'll also elaborate on what I mean by the "good parts of the web".

The web is a great platform for applications. It's central nature allows for ease of communication. It also makes it easy to share things because it is publicly accessible. Lastly, the web is great because it's accessible from everywhere, including mobile phones. That said, current desktops such as gnome, windows, etc. lack the ability to do incorporate this in their design. What I want to do in Lucid is incorporate these aspects of the web into the desktop.

An example would be the phone interface that we will be working on in 1.1. It will provide an alternate interface that allows javascript-enabled devices with limited screen real estate to run the full-blown desktop applications. Because the web is accessible from phones, we can actually pull this off. The current solutions, however, can't because of their decentralized nature.

Another example is the public frontend that we wanted. Each user of the desktop would have a public website. Applications would be able to publish things to the personal website. For example, I could have a photos application that would allow me to publish a photo album that I could send to my friends. Current desktops can't do this; you need to upload them to something like Flickr. Because Lucid is on the web though, we can. That said, I'm not against syncing with Flickr, it's just that I feel a seamless integration with the web leads to a more usable interface.

So, hopefully that cleared up the last post. I do think that having things like an office suite are important, but I'm not going to limit us to making a carbon-copy of a desktop environment. I want to expand upon that, and make it a desktop for the web, and not just a web-based desktop.

Not to rain on your parade

Not to rain on your parade but I guess we had the same brainstorm on names only we came up with naming our CMS/ERP/CRM/BMP webapplication framework Lucid 2.5 years ago.
We will be marketing under that name globally soon...

Thanks for informing me

Thanks for informing me about this. I've thought about it, and I'm going to wait until they release it, and see how the marketing campaign goes. We already have a domain, and we've got logos and everything is stylized to fit the new name. We've been wanting to rename the project for about a year now, and we've been around for 3+ years... and we've actually released something.

Corporations (for one reason or the other) feel that they have the right to push around open source projects just because they have money behind them. If we were a company, and we released something with the same name before another company did, it would look awfully foolish if you said "that's not fair, we came up with the name first!". Well, how was I supposed to know?

I'm not trying to criticize you in any way, I'm just trying to get you to see my point of view. I hope you understand.

I posted this comment over

I posted this comment over on Ajaxian, but thought I'd post here too just to be complete.

It’s not bad! I’ve looked at a lot of AJAX OS’s, and this one is pretty good.
The #1 thing though that the web OS’s I’ve looked at have ALL failed to do (including Psych/Lucid) is having a common ‘Application Directory’.

You have a bunch of apps installed by default, but I think you really need to have one of the apps installed by default everywhere, is a ‘Install More Apps’ app.

I should be able to download the OS on my machine, develop a new application for it, and be able to submit it to an application directory.
This application should then be available for instant install on anyone else’s Lucid install through a ‘App Directory’ app.

In my honest opinion, this is the ONLY way any Web OS will ever ‘take’ off.

BTW, the app directory should have social features such as user reviews and a rating system. To weed out the good from the bad.

We’re actually going to

We’re actually going to have an application/theme directory on our new site. Later, we’ll integrate it with the desktop itself, as you described.

What would be awesome would

What would be awesome would be a PEAR like system. Lucid would be the main channel but Lucid desk owners would be able to setup their own channel to provide their applications.

Man, this is giving me visions... More on that later.

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finally a web desktop

finally a web desktop heading in the right direction!
though its a little sad youre almost 1.0 :)
nevertheless i am really looking forward to what will be produced.

Finally, a person who

Finally, a person who understands us! :D

eheh, just to make myself

eheh, just to make myself unloved....

http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/ubiquity/ and http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/weave/

But I **do** think Lucid can do some of that in a very easy way, enabling people (that's one of my main goal).

Agreed, I can definitely see

Agreed, I can definitely see something like that being implemented :).

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